Looks like the P4, especially SEC and B10 with half or more, want all the new revenue for themselves. The remaining G5 conferences will have to share between 6-10% of the remaining revenue, which could mean 1-2% per G5 conference.

My understanding is the current CFP deal with ESPN is worth $470 million annually. The new deal will increase almost three fold to $1.3 billion but the greedy SEC and B10 don't want to share it with the G5. Those two conferences really need to break off and create their own division and playoff since they seem intent on destroying the current makeup of FBS (destroying conferences like B12 and PAC 12 by raiding them over the years, creating a 4-team CFP system that favored them, etc.).

https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...enue-split

Quote:College Football Playoff leaders are "on target" to come to a resolution by the end of the week on a proposed revenue distribution and governance structure in the next contract, sources told ESPN, but some important conversations remain before they agree to sign a lucrative TV deal with ESPN.

Commissioners of the Mountain West Conference, Sun Belt, Mid-American Conference, Conference USA and American Athletic Conference aren't keen on the proposed revenue distribution, which sources said would limit the Group of 5 conferences from making any substantial increase in revenue in the next contract, which would begin in 2026. One source described it a "slight uptick; nominal."

(03-13-2024 09:05 AM)epasnoopy Wrote:  Looks like the P4, especially SEC and B10 with half or more, want all the new revenue for themselves. The remaining G5 conferences will have to share between 6-10% of the remaining revenue, which could mean 1-2% per G5 conference.

My understanding is the current CFP deal with ESPN is worth $470 million annually. The new deal will increase almost three fold to $1.3 billion but the greedy SEC and B10 don't want to share it with the G5. Those two conferences really need to break off and create their own division and playoff since they seem intent on destroying the current makeup of FBS (destroying conferences like B12 and PAC 12 by raiding them over the years, creating a 4-team CFP system that favored them, etc.).

https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...enue-split

Quote:College Football Playoff leaders are "on target" to come to a resolution by the end of the week on a proposed revenue distribution and governance structure in the next contract, sources told ESPN, but some important conversations remain before they agree to sign a lucrative TV deal with ESPN.

Commissioners of the Mountain West Conference, Sun Belt, Mid-American Conference, Conference USA and American Athletic Conference aren't keen on the proposed revenue distribution, which sources said would limit the Group of 5 conferences from making any substantial increase in revenue in the next contract, which would begin in 2026. One source described it a "slight uptick; nominal."

The P5, Big ten & SEC lets be honest, dictate everything revolving around $$. They will basically say pound sand (i wish NIJ would come back to the board).

Big 10 and SEC got their way and the G5 cowered from putting up any fight. They got a 400% increase per school in revenue, ACC with 240% increase, Big 12 with 220% increase, and the G5 with less than 20% increase from previous CFP deal.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...p-contract

Quote:The financial distribution for the expected 14-team playoff will look radically different from that of its playoff predecessor. On an annual basis, for example, the Big Ten and SEC will be making more than $21 million per school, a number that's up from the nearly $5.5 million the Power 5 leagues are currently being paid.

Quote:The Group of 5 schools (the American, Conference USA, MAC, Mountain West and Sun Belt) revenue will increase to just under $1.8 million from the current $1.5 million. According to multiple sources, AAC commissioner Mike Aresco has been the most outspoken critic of the plan but hasn't been able to garner enough support from other commissioners to fight it.

Wow they took away the participation bonus if a G5 school makes it. That was where the G5 actually got some money. Now more Pennys.

I start to laugh when people talk about how the kids are there for education at the FBS level. No not anymore it is strictly about money.

The MAC commissioner probably rolled over and showed the P2 his belly to get a scratch like a good boy. Just embarrassing that they did not band together and get more out of this deal. The Pay day games are going away soon too, so G5 is doubly F@@@ed.

What I want to know is the payout if a G5 wins in the first round and plays in the second.

There has to be some sort of increase?

(03-15-2024 12:15 PM)HuskiePride12 Wrote:  What I want to know is the payout if a G5 wins in the first round and plays in the second.

There has to be some sort of increase?

Based on the language of the ESPN article I posted there isn't. This doesn't appear to be like the NCAA tournament where you earn more credits per advancement in the playoff.

Quote:There will no longer be a participation bonus for any of the other leagues -- a detail that was frustrating to some leaders in the Group of 5.

Frustrating????? How about the whole new contract being a death blow to the G5. Those G5 Commissioners are a bunch of pansies. If you are gonna be eliminated anyway, why not do it in a blaze of glory. This round needed a unanimous vote and they could not hold out for a least a few things favorable to the G5? They should have threatened them with anti-trust lawsuits or withheld the votes in a block. May not have worked but a least put up a fight and not just bend over with no lube.

i hate to say this YET AGAIN. but tell me why we continue to grovel at the FBS bowl for scraps? FCS where its at.

(03-20-2024 12:35 PM)huskiealum03 Wrote:  i hate to say this YET AGAIN. but tell me why we continue to grovel at the FBS bowl for scraps? FCS where its at.

FCS isn't the answer. Each MAC school would lose millions of annual revenue from game garauntees, ESPN contract, and CFP revenue.

Let's just create our own G5 playoff within the current FBS framework or let SEC and Big 10 break off and create their own NFL minor league. The G5 conferences didn't have to sign onto this CFP system. They could have said no and banded together to create their own playoff.

(03-20-2024 12:56 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  

(03-20-2024 12:35 PM)huskiealum03 Wrote:  i hate to say this YET AGAIN. but tell me why we continue to grovel at the FBS bowl for scraps? FCS where its at.

FCS isn't the answer. Each MAC school would lose millions of annual revenue from game garauntees, ESPN contract, and CFP revenue.

Let's just create our own G5 playoff within the current FBS framework or let SEC and Big 10 break off and create their own NFL minor league. The G5 conferences didn't have to sign onto this CFP system. They could have said no and banded together to create their own playoff.

Count me as one of the people that if NIU moved to FCS, I would hardly watch and would definitely cancel my season tickets.

(03-20-2024 01:37 PM)HuskiePride12 Wrote:  

(03-20-2024 12:56 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  

(03-20-2024 12:35 PM)huskiealum03 Wrote:  i hate to say this YET AGAIN. but tell me why we continue to grovel at the FBS bowl for scraps? FCS where its at.

FCS isn't the answer. Each MAC school would lose millions of annual revenue from game garauntees, ESPN contract, and CFP revenue.

Let's just create our own G5 playoff within the current FBS framework or let SEC and Big 10 break off and create their own NFL minor league. The G5 conferences didn't have to sign onto this CFP system. They could have said no and banded together to create their own playoff.

Count me as one of the people that if NIU moved to FCS, I would hardly watch and would definitely cancel my season tickets.

You also give up the scraps from the CFP, tv contract, and money games to the tune of $4m. Still better off as a G5 bottom feeder than FCS right now.

(03-20-2024 12:35 PM)huskiealum03 Wrote:  i hate to say this YET AGAIN. but tell me why we continue to grovel at the FBS bowl for scraps? FCS where its at.

Death before FCS.

Separate G5 playoff, maybe, if the TV money surfaced realistically.

(03-20-2024 01:39 PM)HuskieJ Wrote:  

(03-20-2024 01:37 PM)HuskiePride12 Wrote:  

(03-20-2024 12:56 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  

(03-20-2024 12:35 PM)huskiealum03 Wrote:  i hate to say this YET AGAIN. but tell me why we continue to grovel at the FBS bowl for scraps? FCS where its at.

FCS isn't the answer. Each MAC school would lose millions of annual revenue from game garauntees, ESPN contract, and CFP revenue.

Let's just create our own G5 playoff within the current FBS framework or let SEC and Big 10 break off and create their own NFL minor league. The G5 conferences didn't have to sign onto this CFP system. They could have said no and banded together to create their own playoff.

Count me as one of the people that if NIU moved to FCS, I would hardly watch and would definitely cancel my season tickets.

You also give up the scraps from the CFP, tv contract, and money games to the tune of $4m. Still better off as a G5 bottom feeder than FCS right now.

100%. There are reasons that 4 teams moved up last year to the FBS and still one more this season. My guess since they don't say it in the contract is the further along you go in the playoffs, the more money allotted to that team.

(03-20-2024 01:44 PM)HuskiePride12 Wrote:  

(03-20-2024 01:39 PM)HuskieJ Wrote:  

(03-20-2024 01:37 PM)HuskiePride12 Wrote:  

(03-20-2024 12:56 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  

(03-20-2024 12:35 PM)huskiealum03 Wrote:  i hate to say this YET AGAIN. but tell me why we continue to grovel at the FBS bowl for scraps? FCS where its at.

FCS isn't the answer. Each MAC school would lose millions of annual revenue from game garauntees, ESPN contract, and CFP revenue.

Let's just create our own G5 playoff within the current FBS framework or let SEC and Big 10 break off and create their own NFL minor league. The G5 conferences didn't have to sign onto this CFP system. They could have said no and banded together to create their own playoff.

Count me as one of the people that if NIU moved to FCS, I would hardly watch and would definitely cancel my season tickets.

You also give up the scraps from the CFP, tv contract, and money games to the tune of $4m. Still better off as a G5 bottom feeder than FCS right now.

100%. There are reasons that 4 teams moved up last year to the FBS and still one more this season. My guess since they don't say it in the contract is the further along you go in the playoffs, the more money allotted to that team.

FBS Football Requirement Changes Effective In 2023
Increase the application fee for transitioning from FCS to FBS from $5,000 to $5 million (effective immediately)

No one else is going to make the jump anytime soon. That is why there was so much activity in 2022

(03-20-2024 12:56 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  

(03-20-2024 12:35 PM)huskiealum03 Wrote:  i hate to say this YET AGAIN. but tell me why we continue to grovel at the FBS bowl for scraps? FCS where its at.

FCS isn't the answer. Each MAC school would lose millions of annual revenue from game garauntees, ESPN contract, and CFP revenue.

Let's just create our own G5 playoff within the current FBS framework or let SEC and Big 10 break off and create their own NFL minor league. The G5 conferences didn't have to sign onto this CFP system. They could have said no and banded together to create their own playoff.

You are chasing dreams that will never be realized. G5 just got hosed on payoff with no fight and you think they'll have the guts to create their own playoff system? The acceleration of the irrelevence of the G5 is well underway. Theres another thread lamenting if NIU will ever make the big dance. What do you see that makes you think things will get better?

This is akin to

https://tenor.com/UJiO.gif

We have long time stalwarts like Dog Fan throwing in the towel on supporting Athletics partially because STF and partially because of the transfer portal. Tell me.... even if there is money being sent NIUs way by mere FBS association - what exactly are we (the program) doing?

(03-20-2024 05:43 PM)huskiealum03 Wrote:  

(03-20-2024 12:56 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  

(03-20-2024 12:35 PM)huskiealum03 Wrote:  i hate to say this YET AGAIN. but tell me why we continue to grovel at the FBS bowl for scraps? FCS where its at.

FCS isn't the answer. Each MAC school would lose millions of annual revenue from game garauntees, ESPN contract, and CFP revenue.

Let's just create our own G5 playoff within the current FBS framework or let SEC and Big 10 break off and create their own NFL minor league. The G5 conferences didn't have to sign onto this CFP system. They could have said no and banded together to create their own playoff.

You are chasing dreams that will never be realized. G5 just got hosed on payoff with no fight and you think they'll have the guts to create their own playoff system? The acceleration of the irrelevence of the G5 is well underway. Theres another thread lamenting if NIU will ever make the big dance. What do you see that makes you think things will get better?

This is akin to

https://tenor.com/UJiO.gif

If G5 is irrelevant, then what is FCS? Do any of the FCS conferences even have a major media deal for football or is the best coverage they get ESPN+? The FCS playoff contract will pay their schools less than half what each MAC school will make in revised CFP.

Look how much less revenue FCS schools in Illinois bring in donor, NCAA/playoff distributions, and game garauntees. SIU and ISU are in the premier FCS conference at their level too.

https://knightnewhousedata.org/reports/9bbb7f4d