(02-26-2024 06:09 PM)7 Wrote:  

(02-26-2024 06:04 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  Wonder why CUSA chose to take Delaware over UMass.

Says UMass applied to both conferences.

In looking at the records, UMass has a combined four FBS wins in last 5 seasons. They will be duking it out with Akron for that coveted one FBS win every season.

I know we are all miserable about everything, but per Thamel (who broke the news) UMASS chose the MAC.

https://www.espn.com/college-sports/stor...-26-season

Toledo fans must be miserable too. Most of their board doesn't think much of the addition either.

(02-26-2024 06:13 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  

(02-26-2024 06:09 PM)7 Wrote:  

(02-26-2024 06:04 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  Wonder why CUSA chose to take Delaware over UMass.

Says UMass applied to both conferences.

In looking at the records, UMass has a combined four FBS wins in last 5 seasons. They will be duking it out with Akron for that coveted one FBS win every season.

I know we are all miserable about everything, but per Thamel (who broke the news) UMASS chose the MAC.

https://www.espn.com/college-sports/stor...-26-season

Toledo fans must be miserable too. Most of their board doesn't think much of the addition either.

I mean they live in Toledo so this checks out

(02-26-2024 06:37 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  

All three of those would be MASSIVE adds. Sign em up!!!

(02-26-2024 06:46 PM)HawaiiToNIU Wrote:  

(02-26-2024 06:37 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  

All three of those would be MASSIVE adds. Sign em up!!!

NDSU to Umass is a 22.5 hour drive.

That account is in no way reputable lol

(02-26-2024 03:34 PM)thxjoenovak Wrote:  Kudos to Dr Jon sir snagging UMASS before the BIG did.

You're crazy if you believe the B1G was interested in UMass.
In 2022, UMass cut women's volleyball, men's and women's gymnastics, men's tennis, and men's indoor track and field -- all B1G sports. UMass also dropped men's and women's water polo, and lacks in academic reputation. The B1G's snobbish attitude might be interested in poaching Boston College from the ACC if that were possible.

This is great for basketball, hope their football gets a bit better.

(02-26-2024 08:54 PM)uiniu57 Wrote:  

(02-26-2024 03:34 PM)thxjoenovak Wrote:  Kudos to Dr Jon sir snagging UMASS before the BIG did.

You're crazy if you believe the B1G was interested in UMass.
In 2022, UMass cut women's volleyball, men's and women's gymnastics, men's tennis, and men's indoor track and field -- all B1G sports. UMass also dropped men's and women's water polo, and lacks in academic reputation. The B1G's snobbish attitude might be interested in poaching Boston College from the ACC if that were possible.

57, please check the batteries in your sarcasm detector.

(02-26-2024 07:29 PM)Rawdog10 Wrote:  

(02-26-2024 06:46 PM)HawaiiToNIU Wrote:  

(02-26-2024 06:37 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  

All three of those would be MASSIVE adds. Sign em up!!!

NDSU to Umass is a 22.5 hour drive.

I don’t think we’re going to be seeing many schools make the leap from FCS anymore. They raised the dollar amount to a crazy level because so many were coming up. Personally I do not want ISU in our conference or at the FBS level period.

I’m all for adding WKU again if the MAC is looking to add one more now. Gotta believe UMass is not getting any of the ESPN money they just wanted to be apart of a conference again?

Does that mean the game this season will now be changed since it would be considered conference?

Edit just re-read it is for the 2025 season.

(02-26-2024 09:21 PM)thxjoenovak Wrote:  

(02-26-2024 08:54 PM)uiniu57 Wrote:  

(02-26-2024 03:34 PM)thxjoenovak Wrote:  Kudos to Dr Jon sir snagging UMASS before the BIG did.

You're crazy if you believe the B1G was interested in UMass.
In 2022, UMass cut women's volleyball, men's and women's gymnastics, men's tennis, and men's indoor track and field -- all B1G sports. UMass also dropped men's and women's water polo, and lacks in academic reputation. The B1G's snobbish attitude might be interested in poaching Boston College from the ACC if that were possible.

57, please check the batteries in your sarcasm detector.

Duly noted. Replacement batteries now installed.

Hypothetically I wonder if the MAC could go to ESPN and say if we add both MTSU and WKU it wouldn’t allow them to have enough members for a conference. The MAC could gain some of the TV $$ from CUSAs contract because the conference would basically dissolve at that point.

This is surprising. The MAC actually doing something to survive, or maybe even lay the groundwork to thrive is unexpected. I’ve been out of the loop of everything lately so if the rumors of this move were flying I didn’t hear them.

One would have to imagine more moves are coming? Any rumors with legs there? Or are we just guessing?

(02-27-2024 07:37 AM)BigChilla Wrote:  This is surprising. The MAC actually doing something to survive, or maybe even lay the groundwork to thrive is unexpected. I’ve been out of the loop of everything lately so if the rumors of this move were flying I didn’t hear them.

One would have to imagine more moves are coming? Any rumors with legs there? Or are we just guessing?

If I'm the MAC, I go for the jugular on CUSA. Offer Liberty, MTSU and WKU. One less conference helps the MAC. Basketball really improves with MTSU, WKU & UMass and football does with Liberty and WKU.

Would really provide help in negotiating a higher $$ TV contract and would basically allow for a seat at the table each season in the playoff. Split the divisions truly on distance for West & East.

(02-27-2024 08:11 AM)HuskiePride12 Wrote:  

(02-27-2024 07:37 AM)BigChilla Wrote:  This is surprising. The MAC actually doing something to survive, or maybe even lay the groundwork to thrive is unexpected. I’ve been out of the loop of everything lately so if the rumors of this move were flying I didn’t hear them.

One would have to imagine more moves are coming? Any rumors with legs there? Or are we just guessing?

If I'm the MAC, I go for the jugular on CUSA. Offer Liberty, MTSU and WKU. One less conference helps the MAC. Basketball really improves with MTSU, WKU & UMass and football does with Liberty and WKU.

Would really provide help in negotiating a higher $$ TV contract and would basically allow for a seat at the table each season in the playoff. Split the divisions truly on distance for West & East.

Yeah, I was thinking of a different route but that would be an interesting way to go as well. And quite an aggressive route.

The thing is, I think for the most part, the MAC is pretty safe from being picked over. We really don't have a ton of attractive schools for conferences to go after. But, if we lost a Toledo (or probably Miami), I think it would be pretty detrimental to our conference.

So, there is a bit of a threat there. By getting aggressive, you strengthen your own footing. Then again, maybe you put a target on yourself?

(02-27-2024 08:49 AM)Big Red Wrote:  

(02-27-2024 08:11 AM)HuskiePride12 Wrote:  

(02-27-2024 07:37 AM)BigChilla Wrote:  This is surprising. The MAC actually doing something to survive, or maybe even lay the groundwork to thrive is unexpected. I’ve been out of the loop of everything lately so if the rumors of this move were flying I didn’t hear them.

One would have to imagine more moves are coming? Any rumors with legs there? Or are we just guessing?

If I'm the MAC, I go for the jugular on CUSA. Offer Liberty, MTSU and WKU. One less conference helps the MAC. Basketball really improves with MTSU, WKU & UMass and football does with Liberty and WKU.

Would really provide help in negotiating a higher $$ TV contract and would basically allow for a seat at the table each season in the playoff. Split the divisions truly on distance for West & East.

Yeah, I was thinking of a different route but that would be an interesting way to go as well. And quite an aggressive route.

The thing is, I think for the most part, the MAC is pretty safe from being picked over. We really don't have a ton of attractive schools for conferences to go after. But, if we lost a Toledo (or probably Miami), I think it would be pretty detrimental to our conference.

So, there is a bit of a threat there. By getting aggressive, you strengthen your own footing. Then again, maybe you put a target on yourself?

Possibly, but if you are the MAC you are trying to get ahead of the AAC going after a school like Liberty and the Sunbelt going after WKU/MTSU. Would leave the MAC being one of the 3 leftover G5 Conferences since my guess is the MW is going to become the PAC12 again with Oregon state and WSU.

CUSA is hardly hanging on and if they go away as a conference only helps aid the MAC. I hope the MAC commish has some balls and tries to take them out.

Larger pieces of pie for the other G5 conferences then. They changed the fee from FCS to FBS from $5,000 to $5 mil this off-season to eliminate the conferences from back filling easy like CUSA has been doing.

Maybe, just maybe the MAC will do something right. The UMass add was good for the conference overall IMO.

(02-27-2024 12:08 PM)HuskiePride12 Wrote:  

(02-27-2024 08:49 AM)Big Red Wrote:  

(02-27-2024 08:11 AM)HuskiePride12 Wrote:  

(02-27-2024 07:37 AM)BigChilla Wrote:  This is surprising. The MAC actually doing something to survive, or maybe even lay the groundwork to thrive is unexpected. I’ve been out of the loop of everything lately so if the rumors of this move were flying I didn’t hear them.

One would have to imagine more moves are coming? Any rumors with legs there? Or are we just guessing?

If I'm the MAC, I go for the jugular on CUSA. Offer Liberty, MTSU and WKU. One less conference helps the MAC. Basketball really improves with MTSU, WKU & UMass and football does with Liberty and WKU.

Would really provide help in negotiating a higher $$ TV contract and would basically allow for a seat at the table each season in the playoff. Split the divisions truly on distance for West & East.

Yeah, I was thinking of a different route but that would be an interesting way to go as well. And quite an aggressive route.

The thing is, I think for the most part, the MAC is pretty safe from being picked over. We really don't have a ton of attractive schools for conferences to go after. But, if we lost a Toledo (or probably Miami), I think it would be pretty detrimental to our conference.

So, there is a bit of a threat there. By getting aggressive, you strengthen your own footing. Then again, maybe you put a target on yourself?

Possibly, but if you are the MAC you are trying to get ahead of the AAC going after a school like Liberty and the Sunbelt going after WKU/MTSU. Would leave the MAC being one of the 3 leftover G5 Conferences since my guess is the MW is going to become the PAC12 again with Oregon state and WSU.

CUSA is hardly hanging on and if they go away as a conference only helps aid the MAC. I hope the MAC commish has some balls and tries to take them out.

Larger pieces of pie for the other G5 conferences then. They changed the fee from FCS to FBS from $5,000 to $5 mil this off-season to eliminate the conferences from back filling easy like CUSA has been doing.

Maybe, just maybe the MAC will do something right. The UMass add was good for the conference overall IMO.

Liberty is kind of gross politically, but in a world where football is king trying to beat the Sun Belt to them makes sense. Feel like the Sun Belt has surpassed the MAC with their recent additions.

(02-27-2024 12:08 PM)HuskiePride12 Wrote:  

(02-27-2024 08:49 AM)Big Red Wrote:  

(02-27-2024 08:11 AM)HuskiePride12 Wrote:  

(02-27-2024 07:37 AM)BigChilla Wrote:  This is surprising. The MAC actually doing something to survive, or maybe even lay the groundwork to thrive is unexpected. I’ve been out of the loop of everything lately so if the rumors of this move were flying I didn’t hear them.

One would have to imagine more moves are coming? Any rumors with legs there? Or are we just guessing?

If I'm the MAC, I go for the jugular on CUSA. Offer Liberty, MTSU and WKU. One less conference helps the MAC. Basketball really improves with MTSU, WKU & UMass and football does with Liberty and WKU.

Would really provide help in negotiating a higher $$ TV contract and would basically allow for a seat at the table each season in the playoff. Split the divisions truly on distance for West & East.

Yeah, I was thinking of a different route but that would be an interesting way to go as well. And quite an aggressive route.

The thing is, I think for the most part, the MAC is pretty safe from being picked over. We really don't have a ton of attractive schools for conferences to go after. But, if we lost a Toledo (or probably Miami), I think it would be pretty detrimental to our conference.

So, there is a bit of a threat there. By getting aggressive, you strengthen your own footing. Then again, maybe you put a target on yourself?

Possibly, but if you are the MAC you are trying to get ahead of the AAC going after a school like Liberty and the Sunbelt going after WKU/MTSU. Would leave the MAC being one of the 3 leftover G5 Conferences since my guess is the MW is going to become the PAC12 again with Oregon state and WSU.

CUSA is hardly hanging on and if they go away as a conference only helps aid the MAC. I hope the MAC commish has some balls and tries to take them out.

Larger pieces of pie for the other G5 conferences then. They changed the fee from FCS to FBS from $5,000 to $5 mil this off-season to eliminate the conferences from back filling easy like CUSA has been doing.

Maybe, just maybe the MAC will do something right. The UMass add was good for the conference overall IMO.

On one hand, I feel like Liberty has its eye on a much larger landing spot than the MAC and would definitely make the move to the MAC but only as a stepping stone and the only concern I'd have is they'd want to drag someone with them to the new conference after the MAC.

But they would be a good get.

As for the MW, they aren't going to become the Pac-12 just because the Pac-12 doesn't exist and Oregon State and Washington State don't push it into that category. UCLA, Arizona, USC, etc, etc, still exist and you don't just assume the hole they vacated with Colorado State, San Diego State or UNLV. The MW, with or without OSU and WSU are still a G5. A really good G5...probably the best G5, but still a G5.

(02-27-2024 12:23 PM)7 Wrote:  

(02-27-2024 12:08 PM)HuskiePride12 Wrote:  

(02-27-2024 08:49 AM)Big Red Wrote:  

(02-27-2024 08:11 AM)HuskiePride12 Wrote:  

(02-27-2024 07:37 AM)BigChilla Wrote:  This is surprising. The MAC actually doing something to survive, or maybe even lay the groundwork to thrive is unexpected. I’ve been out of the loop of everything lately so if the rumors of this move were flying I didn’t hear them.

One would have to imagine more moves are coming? Any rumors with legs there? Or are we just guessing?

If I'm the MAC, I go for the jugular on CUSA. Offer Liberty, MTSU and WKU. One less conference helps the MAC. Basketball really improves with MTSU, WKU & UMass and football does with Liberty and WKU.

Would really provide help in negotiating a higher $$ TV contract and would basically allow for a seat at the table each season in the playoff. Split the divisions truly on distance for West & East.

Yeah, I was thinking of a different route but that would be an interesting way to go as well. And quite an aggressive route.

The thing is, I think for the most part, the MAC is pretty safe from being picked over. We really don't have a ton of attractive schools for conferences to go after. But, if we lost a Toledo (or probably Miami), I think it would be pretty detrimental to our conference.

So, there is a bit of a threat there. By getting aggressive, you strengthen your own footing. Then again, maybe you put a target on yourself?

Possibly, but if you are the MAC you are trying to get ahead of the AAC going after a school like Liberty and the Sunbelt going after WKU/MTSU. Would leave the MAC being one of the 3 leftover G5 Conferences since my guess is the MW is going to become the PAC12 again with Oregon state and WSU.

CUSA is hardly hanging on and if they go away as a conference only helps aid the MAC. I hope the MAC commish has some balls and tries to take them out.

Larger pieces of pie for the other G5 conferences then. They changed the fee from FCS to FBS from $5,000 to $5 mil this off-season to eliminate the conferences from back filling easy like CUSA has been doing.

Maybe, just maybe the MAC will do something right. The UMass add was good for the conference overall IMO.

Liberty is kind of gross politically, but in a world where football is king trying to beat the Sun Belt to them makes sense. Feel like the Sun Belt has surpassed the MAC with their recent additions.

The Sun Belt is absolutely ahead of the MAC. There is no question about that. In football and men's basketball (nothing else matters).

Getting UMass, Liberty and potentially WKU and MTSU helps close the gap, especially in basketball, but I don't see the MAC catching them in football any time soon.

(02-27-2024 12:23 PM)7 Wrote:  

(02-27-2024 12:08 PM)HuskiePride12 Wrote:  

(02-27-2024 08:49 AM)Big Red Wrote:  

(02-27-2024 08:11 AM)HuskiePride12 Wrote:  

(02-27-2024 07:37 AM)BigChilla Wrote:  This is surprising. The MAC actually doing something to survive, or maybe even lay the groundwork to thrive is unexpected. I’ve been out of the loop of everything lately so if the rumors of this move were flying I didn’t hear them.

One would have to imagine more moves are coming? Any rumors with legs there? Or are we just guessing?

If I'm the MAC, I go for the jugular on CUSA. Offer Liberty, MTSU and WKU. One less conference helps the MAC. Basketball really improves with MTSU, WKU & UMass and football does with Liberty and WKU.

Would really provide help in negotiating a higher $$ TV contract and would basically allow for a seat at the table each season in the playoff. Split the divisions truly on distance for West & East.

Yeah, I was thinking of a different route but that would be an interesting way to go as well. And quite an aggressive route.

The thing is, I think for the most part, the MAC is pretty safe from being picked over. We really don't have a ton of attractive schools for conferences to go after. But, if we lost a Toledo (or probably Miami), I think it would be pretty detrimental to our conference.

So, there is a bit of a threat there. By getting aggressive, you strengthen your own footing. Then again, maybe you put a target on yourself?

Possibly, but if you are the MAC you are trying to get ahead of the AAC going after a school like Liberty and the Sunbelt going after WKU/MTSU. Would leave the MAC being one of the 3 leftover G5 Conferences since my guess is the MW is going to become the PAC12 again with Oregon state and WSU.

CUSA is hardly hanging on and if they go away as a conference only helps aid the MAC. I hope the MAC commish has some balls and tries to take them out.

Larger pieces of pie for the other G5 conferences then. They changed the fee from FCS to FBS from $5,000 to $5 mil this off-season to eliminate the conferences from back filling easy like CUSA has been doing.

Maybe, just maybe the MAC will do something right. The UMass add was good for the conference overall IMO.

Liberty is kind of gross politically, but in a world where football is king trying to beat the Sun Belt to them makes sense. Feel like the Sun Belt has surpassed the MAC with their recent additions.

That's funny. I feel the same way about NIU's political stances.