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RE: How many parents will allow their kids to be on their health insurance
(03-31-2010 01:29 PM)HuskieFan84 Wrote:  Our government is headed down this path because we lowered taxes and started a war at the same time, while then going into a recession.

Giving your kids an opportunity to have affordable health insurance until they are 26 is not the problem. If your problem is government spending you should have posted that instead of some asanine post about your children not being mature enough to vote, drink or drive, because you have them under your health insurance coverage.

Medicare and Social Security, the two biggest parts of the budget were bust and are still bust. Nothing done by any of the previous administrations improved or worsened this. Or, perhaps it could be argued that by doing nothing to improve it, they worsened it. Those two items dwarf everything else. And, that is not a defense of anything George Bush did or didn't do.
03-31-2010 01:41 PM
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RE: How many parents will allow their kids to be on their health insurance
(03-31-2010 01:45 PM)DSniu41 Wrote:  
(03-31-2010 10:54 AM)GeorgeBorkFan Wrote:  There was an article from AP yesterday that said due to the bill, young people can expect their premiums to rise by 17% to help cover costs being incurred by the over fifty crowd. There is a ratio in the bill that caps how much premiums can be in relatation to expenditures and there is apparently more room to raise the premiums on the young than the old. I'm sorry that I don't remember the specifics. I'll see if I can find it

The point being that the bill actually actually is increasing costs for the young.

Found it:

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/arti...QD9EOIBQO0

"Some groups predict even higher increases in premiums for younger individuals — as much as 50 percent, says Landon Gibbs of ShoutAmerica, a Tennessee-based nonprofit aimed at mobilizing young people on health care issues, particularly rising costs."

"Gibbs, 27, a former White House aide under President George W. Bush, founded the "bipartisan group" with former hospital chain executive Clayton McWhorter, now chairman of a private equity firm. McWhorter finances the organization."

yes, the group making those claims in the article is unbiased.. HAHA

Reread the article. The 17% figure is from an analysis by Rand.

And, I don't mean Ben Rand.
03-31-2010 01:55 PM
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RE: How many parents will allow their kids to be on their health insurance
(03-31-2010 01:31 PM)armour248 Wrote:  
(03-31-2010 01:29 PM)HuskieFan84 Wrote:  If your problem is government spending you should have posted that instead of some asanine post about your children not being mature enough to vote, drink or drive, because you have them under your health insurance coverage.

Yep.

Well this entitlement was included so that the college age people and younger voters will think that our government is looking out for you. They just want to get re-elected rather than address the real issues. You feel good because they have told you you will get more affordable healthcare but our government does not do anything better than the private sector. Social security and medicare revenues have been used for things other than their purpose. They are part of the general fund and pay for pork project.

I also did it to get your goat. Progressives on this board need to realize that we need major reductions in our governmental costs not adding more programs that we can not fund.
03-31-2010 02:00 PM
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RE: How many parents will allow their kids to be on their health insurance
So from what I'm gathering, parents should take kids off their family cell phone plans, family health insurance, and family car insurance, just to teach them independence? My solution would just be to make the kid cover the difference in price. That way it is more affordable and they are learning responsibility. Making someone pay more just to prove a point isn't smart IMO.
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RE: How many parents will allow their kids to be on their health insurance
(03-31-2010 02:04 PM)BleedsHuskieRed Wrote:  So from what I'm gathering, parents should take kids off their family cell phone plans, family health insurance, and family car insurance, just to teach them independence? My solution would just be to make the kid cover the difference in price. That way it is more affordable and they are learning responsibility. Making someone pay more just to prove a point isn't smart IMO.

I don't necessarily disagree but where do you draw the line. Why 26? Why not 30?
03-31-2010 02:10 PM
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RE: How many parents will allow their kids to be on their health insurance
I'm not under 26, nor unemployed, so I don't feel good about it for those reasons at all.

Certain conservatives on this board need to realize they sound like hypocrites when they only start posting on a daily basis about spending when their party is no longer in control, when they didn't complain on a daily basis about Republicans when we lowered taxes while at the same time expanding the government under the previous regime. When they weren't complaining daily here about Republicans when they were spending money we didn't have. Or when they didn't fix Social Security or Medicaid when they were in power. When they didn't ask how we were going to pay for things when we lowered taxes for the rich & we went to war for no reason at the same time.

It just sounds hollow Klake.
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RE: How many parents will allow their kids to be on their health insurance
(03-31-2010 02:00 PM)klake87 Wrote:  I also did it to get your goat. Progressives on this board need to realize that we need major reductions in our governmental costs not adding more programs that we can not fund.

You don't know who I vote(d) for. I'm sure most people would agree with you about the financial situation in the United States but, in my opinion, you are going about it all wrong and coming off as ignorant.
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RE: How many parents will allow their kids to be on their health insurance
(03-31-2010 02:43 PM)HuskieFan84 Wrote:  I'm not under 26, nor unemployed, so I don't feel good about it for those reasons at all.

Certain conservatives on this board need to realize they sound like hypocrites when they only start posting on a daily basis about spending when their party is no longer in control, when they didn't complain on a daily basis about Republicans when we lowered taxes while at the same time expanding the government under the previous regime. When they weren't complaining daily here about Republicans when they were spending money we didn't have. Or when they didn't fix Social Security or Medicaid when they were in power. When they didn't ask how we were going to pay for things when we lowered taxes for the rich & we went to war for no reason at the same time.

It just sounds hollow Klake.

I have been saying this for years. I am not a republican because I do not believe they are true fiscal conservatives. I voted for no one in the presidential election because John McCain is not a fiscal conservative. The reason for the messages is we are getting close to the point of no return. I am getting a lot more active in politics because the current politicians are pretty much all bad. Both parties are at fault but now politicians don't have the money to throw at it or move around to hide the issues. Wake up. This is a serious issue.
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RE: How many parents will allow their kids to be on their health insurance
I've been awake, it's been a serious issue for a long time. It's such a serious issue that Republicans lost control of the house, senate and White House. I don't know if you just were sleeping for the previous decade, but we've been saying it's a serious issue for a long time. You just didn't mind when we were wasting money b/c it was a "conservative" in office. I actually was complaining the last 10 years. Unlike you, I didn't just flip the switch when Obama came into office.

I was loudly complaining when the tax cuts when Bush put them into place, just as I was when we went into a ridiculous war for no reason. I've been complaining about social security and how it's been ran for a long time.

You sound like a rightwing teaparty nut, not a fiscal conservative. You go on these ridiculous "socialism is coming!!!" fear mongering rants that ruin any credibility you might have.
Saying things like my kids aren't mature enough to drive because they'll have affordable health insurance now. Who is going to listen to anything else you say when you say something that stupid?

The fact is you're complaining about Obama's policy's but not posting on a daily basis about the things Republicans did that are hurting us much worse financially. Where are the complaints about the Bush era programs? It makes it very hard to believe you aren't biased when you don't even try to make it seem otherwise.

It's because it's not finances that you have a problem with, it's Obama and democrats. You conveniently only pick and choose the issues where dems want to spend money, but don't post about republicans wasteful spending. If you really were just worried about finances there is plenty to ***** about on both sides.
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RE: How many parents will allow their kids to be on their health insurance
(03-30-2010 02:05 PM)huskiealum03 Wrote:  i think it allows you to keep your kids on your insurance by your choice. the insurance can't cut off your kids from your plan earlier than that. i would think that you have the choice to not carry your child, but don't quote me on that

Is a 24 year old a kid??? 25, 26???

These "kids" need to grow up.

Employers are getting screwed having to pick up their share of the premiums as well. This will have employers cutting insurance as well.
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